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Afghan delegation renders its verdict on Gitmo

I'm sure it will be the lead story on the evening news.

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Captain Ed: Afghan Delegation: Gitmo 'Humane'

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Promoted from the comments:

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While the Afghans might be happy. Some here in this Republic are not.

"The Center for Constitutional Rights has called on the military to allow an emergency independent inspection of the base to confirm the causes of death of the three detainees and to provide an assessment of the health of the other prisoners."

Here is part of what this group says on their website:

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"...The Bush Administration’s denial of due process in Guantánamo is wrong, unconstitutional and counterproductive for U.S. policy. The denial of due process and the conditions at the base, which the Center for Constitutional Rights has documented in numerous court filings, contributed to widespread desperation among the detainees. The Bush Administration has prevented adequate medical treatment and psychological assistance for many detainees, which is required by American and international law, and essential to identifying and treating detainees suffering from the effects of indefinite detention and inhumane conditions." snip...

You can read it all if you want, but it will just remind you of the people in this Republic who hate Bush and all he represents so much, as to do and say anything that will discredit him.

In the process, they also slander our Military, the very ones who ensure this groups existence.

There is something very wrong with this Republic. I pray to God we can correct it in peaceful, intelligent ways before it crumbles from within.

Posted by: Papa Ray

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Posted by Bill Faith on June 14, 2006 at 03:33 PM in Papa Ray | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack

Following in the Footsteps of Rome?

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Promoted from the comments:

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Here is an article that expands this information and other insights.

I asked a question the other day about how previous empires failed, how they failed and if the general population knew of the coming failure and what they tried to do about it.

I think those questions are very important to us today.

Can we do anything, should we? Are we to rely on our leaders to know what to do and when?

If we feel they are not up to the challenge or to the task, what are we to do?

These are questions that the average American had better start considering. Our Republic and our children depend on our government too much. It should not be left to them in total to protect us.

It is our responsibility to protect our family, our state and our Republic.

That is the way it has always been and always should be.

Papa Ray

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Posted by Bill Faith on June 14, 2006 at 04:22 AM in Papa Ray | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack

Too good to try to excerpt or summarize. Click here. Hat tip: George Mellinger.

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George offers these thoughts after reading the linked article:

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Peter Brimelow is always as good as he is wordy. And always significant.  Today he invokes Solzhenitsyn's discussion of the freedom that comes from having nothing else to lose. And he invokes Solzhenitsyn's challenge against the idea of global uniformity, in favor of the idea that nations (including America) must remain separate and individual identities.  I experienced something of this sense of hopeless liberation as I found myself politically squeezed in graduate school, and it does lead to intransigence.  For those of you new to the debate,  toward the end he gives some great information on internal conservative politics and how it affected us "nativists".

http://www.vdare.com/pb/060605_gulag.htm

For all those who replied to my border control articles at Small Town Veteran  with some variety of "Its not practical, it'll never happen", I'd like to offer Brimelow's closing:

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Note that I am deliberately sketching out this wish list while totally ignoring the secondary question of whether or not it is “politically possible.” These steps to redeem America are what Bill Bennett’s Department of Education staffers used to call, ruefully, “Full Moon Proposals” (as in throwing your head back and baying at). They assume an ideal world, except possibly for illegal aliens and immigration lawyers.

I ignore the question of what’s politically possible for two reasons.

Firstly, it actually helps to know where the moon is. You can navigate by it. In other words, by looking at the ideal, we throw into sharp relief the deep, systematic problems of the real world and avoid the minutiae that is typical of so much policy discourse.

We could systematically strip citizenship from those who obtained it fraudulently. Isn’t that nice to know?

Secondly, the plain fact is that no one really has the faintest idea what is politically possible. Least of all the professional politicians. They appear to have been designed by evolution to snuffle along like blind shrews, following their exquisitely sensitive snouts for one day to the next, reacting savagely if asked about next week—let alone year—and thus able to perform 180-degree turns without rupturing their consciences.

Or even noticing. On innumerable issues — wage and price controls, welfare policy, the efficacy of military intervention overseas—the American conventional wisdom had changed out of all recognition over relatively short periods of time, without the conventionally-wise seeming to feel much need to reproach themselves for being wrong.

It can happen in immigration policy too.

Or, to put it another way: the Soviet Union—completely unexpectedly—collapsed. The gulag was dissolved. Alexander Solzhenitsyn returned from exile.

The nightmare will end. America will be freed from its immigration gulag.

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- George

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After reading George's email (quoted above) Papa Ray wrote:

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Needs, Wants and wishes or even requests by the President.

Funny you should talk about this at the time I am reading the writings of U.S. Grant. Besides reading his writings of his life, I have collected a few things he said in his "State of the Union" speeches.

There is more here, in his speeches,  than just talk about Mexico, immigration, fraud and such. But reading between the lines, dissatisfaction from Grant with all things political.

He was a Soldier- not and never anything else. If he could have been King for a few years (without a congress), things would be very different today. He believed that: Politics do not equal or ensure fair policies, but usually the reverse.

Here are his words, not complete, just snippets of them, because some are long and detailed. But they are available at www.gutenberg.org if you want to read all eight years of them. You might just be surprised at what you will learn from them. They are replete with facts, figures and surprises.

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And a Soldiers Wisdom.

1872

"It is much to be regretted that many lawless acts continue to disturb the quiet of the settlements on the border between our territory and that of Mexico, and that complaints of wrongs to American citizens in various parts of the country are made. The revolutionary condition in which the neighboring Republic has so long been involved has in some degree contributed to this disturbance. It is to be hoped that with a more settled rule of order through the Republic, which may be expected from the present Government, the acts of which just complaint is made will cease.

1875

In this connection I earnestly call the attention of Congress to the difficulties arising from fraudulent naturalization. The United States wisely, freely, and liberally offers its citizenship to all who may come in good faith to reside within its limits on their complying with certain prescribed reasonable and simple formalities and conditions. Among the highest duties of the Government is that to afford firm, sufficient, and equal protection to all its citizens, whether native born or naturalized. Care should be taken that a right carrying with it such support from the Government should not be fraudulently obtained, and should be bestowed only upon full proof of a compliance with the law; and yet frequent instances are brought to the attention of the Government of illegal and fraudulent naturalization and of the unauthorized use of certificates thus improperly obtained. In some cases the fraudulent character of the naturalization has appeared upon the face of the certificate itself; in others examination discloses that the holder had not complied with the law, and in others certificates have been obtained where the persons holding them not only were not entitled to be naturalized, but had not even been within the United States at the time of the pretended naturalization. Instances of each of these classes of fraud are discovered at our legations, where the certificates of naturalization are presented either for the purpose of obtaining passports or in demanding the protection of the legation. When the fraud is apparent on the face of such certificates, they are taken up by the representatives of the Government and forwarded to the Department of State. But even then the record of the court in which the fraudulent naturalization occurred remains, and duplicate certificates are readily obtainable. Upon the presentation of these for the issue of passports or in demanding protection of the Government, the fraud sometimes escapes notice, and such certificates are not infrequently used in transactions of business to the deception and injury of innocent parties. Without placing any additional obstacles in the way of the obtainment of citizenship by the worthy and well-intentioned foreigner who comes in good faith to cast his lot with ours, I earnestly recommend further legislation to punish fraudulent naturalization and to secure the ready cancellation of the record of every naturalization made in fraud.

The free zone, so called, several years since established by the Mexican Government in certain of the States of that Republic adjacent to our frontier, remains in full operation. It has always been materially injurious to honest traffic, for it operates as an incentive to traders in Mexico to supply without customs charges the wants of inhabitants on this side of the line, and prevents the same wants from being supplied by merchants of the United States, thereby to a considerable extent defrauding our revenue and checking honest commercial enterprise. Depredations by armed bands from Mexico on the people of Texas near the frontier continue. Though the main object of these incursions is robbery, they frequently result in the murder of unarmed and peaceably disposed persons, and in some instances even the United States post-offices and mail communications have been attacked. Renewed remonstrances upon this subject have been addressed to the Mexican Government, but without much apparent effect. The military force of this Government disposable for service in that quarter is quite inadequate to effectually guard the line, even at those points where the incursions are usually made. An experiment of an armed vessel on the Rio Grande for that purpose is on trial, and it is hoped that, if not thwarted by the shallowness of the river and other natural obstacles, it may materially contribute to the protection of the herdsmen of Texas. The proceedings of the joint commission under the convention between the United States and Mexico of the 4th of July, 1868, on the subject of claims, will soon be brought to a close. The result of those proceedings will then be communicated to Congress.

1875

The United States, with great liberality, offers its citizenship to all who in good faith comply with the requirements of law. These requirements are as simple and upon as favorable terms to the emigrant as the high privilege to which he is admitted can or should permit. I do not propose any additional requirements to those which the law now demands; but the very simplicity and the want of unnecessary formality in our law have made fraudulent naturalization not infrequent, to the discredit and injury of all honest citizens, whether native or naturalized. Cases of this character are continually being brought to the notice of the Government by our representatives abroad, and also those of persons resident in other countries, most frequently those who, if they have remained in this country long enough to entitle them to become naturalized, have generally not much overpassed that period, and have returned to the country of their origin, where they reside, avoiding all duties to the United States by their absence, and claiming to be exempt from all duties to the country of their nativity and of their residence by reason of their alleged naturalization. It is due to this Government itself and to the great mass of the naturalized citizens who entirely, both in name and in fact, become citizens of the United States that the high privilege of citizenship of the United States should not be held by fraud or in derogation of the laws and of the good name of every honest citizen. On many occasions it has been brought to the knowledge of the Government that certificates of naturalization are held and protection or interference claimed by parties who admit that not only they were not within the United States at the time of the pretended naturalization, but that they have never resided in the United States; in others the certificate and record of the court show on their face that the person claiming to be naturalized had not resided the required time in the United States; in others it is admitted upon examination that the requirements of law have not been complied with; in some cases, even, such certificates have been matter of purchase. These are not isolated cases, arising at rare intervals, but of common occurrence, and which are reported from all quarters of the globe. Such occurrences can not, and do not, fail to reflect upon the Government and injure all honest citizens. Such a fraud being discovered, however, there is no practicable means within the control of the Government by which the record of naturalization can be vacated; and should the certificate be taken up, as it usually is, by the diplomatic and consular representatives of the Government to whom it may have been presented, there is nothing to prevent the person claiming to have been naturalized from obtaining a new certificate from the court in place of that which has been taken from him. The evil has become so great and of such frequent occurrence that I can not too earnestly recommend that some effective measures be adopted to provide a proper remedy and means for the vacating of any record thus fraudulently made, and of punishing the guilty parties to the transaction.

1876

First. That the States shall be required to afford the opportunity of a good common-school education to every child within their limits. Second. No sectarian tenets shall ever be taught in any school supported in whole or in part by the State, nation, or by the proceeds of any tax levied upon any community. Make education compulsory so far as to deprive all persons who can not read and write from becoming voters after the year 1890, disfranchising none, however, on grounds of illiteracy who may be voters at the time this amendment takes effect.

The numbers of persons of foreign birth seeking a home in the United States, the ease and facility with which the honest emigrant may, after the lapse of a reasonable time, become possessed of all the privileges of citizenship of the United States, and the frequent occasions which induce such adopted citizens to return to the country of their birth render the subject of naturalization and the safeguards which experience has proved necessary for the protection of the honest naturalized citizen of paramount importance. The very simplicity in the requirements of law on this question affords opportunity for fraud, and the want of uniformity in the proceedings and records of the various courts and in the forms of the certificates of naturalization issued affords a constant source of difficulty. I suggest no additional requirements to the acquisition of citizenship beyond those now existing, but I invite the earnest attention of Congress to the necessity and wisdom of some provisions regarding uniformity in the records and certificates, and providing against the frauds which frequently take place and for the vacating of a record of naturalization obtained in fraud."

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What has been evidently "politically possible" for over a hundred years of this Republic has resulted in the immigration disaster we have today. We have millions of illegals and untold (to us at least) numbers of immigrants that have tried to do it the legal way, supplied the legal documents, jumped through all the impossible hoops, waited for months, years...and still can not become American Citizens.

Have we become a nation that has its priorities and its values backwards? Can not the right things be done anymore. Can we not contain/punish the selfish, ignorant Politicians? Or do away with them?

Can we not let people who are trying to follow the law in, and keep those that break the law out?

Our Republic is in peril, in dire immediate danger from many fronts. Are we to wait until there is no recourse but rebellion and war?

For our children and grandchildren I pray we don't.

Papa Ray

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Don't miss Mudville's latest Open Post.

Posted by Bill Faith on June 6, 2006 at 04:40 PM in Mexican-American War 2, Papa Ray, Rurik | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack

By email from Papa Ray:

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Fences, Farces, Identities and Fakes

Back in the day, there were not many choices for a fence, at least for us poor folk. I can attest to the labor involved in digging post holes and stringing barbed wire or other types wire for fences. The ground is always hardest where you need to dig a hole and that is ALWAYS were the rocks are.

Later on after the initial prices came down, electric fences became the rage. You would put them on stand offs on the existing barbed wire fences. This would give the livestock a shock and keep them away from the "real" fence. Believe it or not some livestock (cattle, horses and goats, mainly) don't believe that that puny fence you put up at great expense should stop them from going over to the "other side", and they proved it by tearing down your fence.

So, that means that you have to continually go out, round up your stock, repair the fence and be prepared to do it over and over and...well you get the idea.

This Virtual fence that the President and Congress is pushing is something that is going to really piss me off, and millions of other Americans as well. It is a farce [an empty display].

A virtual fence is not a "fence", it is a DETECTION system.

As anyone with any brains (yes, I know, the congress doesn't think we have any) can tell you, detecting versus stopping or slowing down  someone or something are NOT the same thing.

Now, granted if you are in your house and you have a "virtual" fence (detection system) and it goes off, you can pick up your shotgun or gun of choice and locate the intruder via the system and go out and either shoot them or try and convince them that you don't have anything worth stealing.

Of course you can just call the cops and lock yourself and your family in the closet. In most areas, you would be robbed or long dead before the cops made it to your house.

The comparison between that and a virtual fence protecting our borders should not be laughed at or dismissed.

In border areas, next to a Law Enforcement or Border Patrol presence,  (say within a few miles) and assuming that the police, sheriff or Border Patrol had someone available (which is a BIG assumption) it might be possible to arrive in the area of the sensor or camera where the infraction has occurred in time to apprehend the illegals or terrorists.

But our border's (at least the southern border) does not fit that profile, and those places are not where most border violations occur anyway. I have been at/on our southern border over the years, in Texas, New Mexico and Arizona. In these states, in almost all of the border areas (except around populated areas), there is nothing but brush, dirt, rocks, rattlesnakes, scorpions  and sky.  A "Detection system" in these area's is like a condom with a hole in it. By the time anyone could get to the area in question, the intruders, invaders and/or terrorists will be long gone or holed up in order to elude detection.

Don't think that fancy equipment like night vision and infrared detection will catch most of them. They are aware of that and would pass in the daytime when its hot or have foil [space] blankets to hide their signatures at night. One interesting observation passed to me by my rancher friend is that he has found many of the military surplus pick/shovels on his property. He surmises that these are to dig trenches to lie in and to cover themselves up when they hear helicopters or airplanes coming  or at night when they are sleeping (which can be heard long before they arrive.) He has also found several of the "space blankets" (foil or special material to reflect heat)

The coyotes that bring most wetbacks across (and that will bring the terrorists across) are professionals. This is the way that they make their living. They are veterans and for every new trick our Border Patrol comes up with, they devise a work around or a solution.

A real fence does one thing that a virtual fence does not. It delays the illegal, giving the Border Patrol at least a chance of getting to the area where the sensor or camera has detected a violation, and actually catching the violator.

Of course a fence alone is not very effective. There are plans on the internet of various fence systems. I have seen bloggers and commenters suggestions for fence systems also. Some of the ones I liked were mines that sprayed various chemicals and mines that ejected tangle nets and sonic mines that made such a noise as to either drive off the invader or incapacitate him. Of course there were suggestions for lethal mines as well, but those would never be approved.  At least not until many thousands more of Americans are murdered.

Maintenance  of the fence system after it is built is going to be an on going expense. But the money saved in our Social System will more than pay for the building of the fence and the upkeep. Plus look at it this way, it's thousands of jobs, jobs that Americans will do.

There are the "other problems", the problems of what to do with those illegals already here, what benefits should they get and hundreds of other questions and problems, such as: how to monitor and make sure they comply with our laws.

To accomplish those goals, there is one important, seemingly impossible problem, the one thing, without which, the illegal ( and legal) immigration problem will not be able to be contained or controlled.

That one thing is an identification system. Oh, no....you yell, not that. Not Big Brother being able to identify everyone!!

Here is one write-up telling you why this will not work and would be bad, bad for America and Americans. There are others that are newer but the basic talking points are the same.  Here is one more, and another.

But common sense tells you that if you can't tell who someone is, how are you to know if he is in this country legally and if he should be allowed to work here? 

Should someone who is using my ([your] child's, a dead person's, a person in prison's, anyone's Social Security number be allowed to work and live in this country? Well No, of course not. Of course my last name would not really work for a person of latino persuasion...or would it?

How many pieces of documentation do you need to prove who you are when you can buy any and all that you need no matter who you are or for what reason you want them?

Using the National database of Social Security does not work by itself, because it is filled with errors and omissions and not enough data on each individual. It is in one word- Broken.

I offer no solution to this, its above my pay grade and intelligence.

But, it has to be solved. If not, illegal immigration and the terrorist threat to our Republic will not be able to be contained, controlled or complied with.

For our Republic's, our GrandDaughters' and GrandSons' sakes, we not only have to, we must find a solution.

Papa Ray
West Texas
USA

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Posted by Bill Faith on May 14, 2006 at 04:28 PM in Mexican-American War 2, Papa Ray | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack

Well, sometimes you decide to sleep on a post and the whole world jumps on it by the time you get back to it. AzPatriot sent me a link to this about 4:00 this morning and I was too tired to do anything with it. By the time I'd had some sleep Drudge had posted a link to it and Michelle and her friends were all over it. So much for my exclusive ;-).

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Post details: U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols

U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols 

Sara Carter, a reporter with the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, reports today that she found documentation on Mexican government websites that show higher ups in the United States Border Patrol have been tipping off the corrupt Mexican government as to the locations of the Minutemen along the border.

This article does not report information told to the MCDC media offices that the Border Patrol chiefs have also been passing along intelligence reports to the government of Mexico on the activities of Minutemen not only at the borders, but in locations such as Utah, Nevada, Illinois, Massachusetts and Tennessee. Perhaps a follow-up story is coming tomorrow or an over zealous editor took the info out?

Part of a report distributed last August to the Mexican government from Border Patrol bureaucrats read over the phone to the MCDC media offices contained not only numbers (estimated chapter membership) of Minutemen in Illinois, but a statement on their activities and that they didn't seem to know any politicians there, indicating that the Illinois Minutemen didn't yet have any political clout.

[Read on here.]

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Bryan Preston has an excellent related post here and Michelle Malkin has two here and here.  Confederate Yankee writes:

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... I’ll never support impeachment proceedings brought against President for going to war with Iraq based on flawed intelligence, not will I fault him overmuch for an executive order that authorized the NSA to try to close intelligence gaps using targeted intercepts of suspected terrorist communications. In both instances, a plausible, if not strong case could be made that he was trying to act in this nation’s best interests.

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Bush's border policies? Those are what I consider impeachable offenses. ...

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Bill Quick: Mr. President: Have You No Shame?

President George W. Bush: The man who saved our nation from the jihadis so he could give it to the Mexicans.

I'm waiting for permission to quote a trusted friend -- someone at least as far to the right as I am on immigration -- who thinks this thing is being blown all out of proportion. I'll update this post later if/when he gives me his OK.

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An important update at Hot Air: CYA from DHS over CBP

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Michelle Malkin: DHS: Deny, Hedge, Spin

2006-05-09

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2006.05.10

DO NOT miss Michelle's latest Vent. While you're at it, read her latest related post here.

La Shawn Barber has an interesting question: Should George Bush Be Impeached?

Papa Ray has the OK from his friend to publish the information he sent me earlier. I still need to massage a couple of emails into one coherent sub-post, which I'll add here as soon as I can.

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Almost as soon as my "email circle" got wind of the "Border Control Spying" thing Papa Ray, whom some of you may know from other things he's contributed here or from his comments on other blogs, sent me an "other side of the story" email, which I'm reproducing here with some modifications based on a follow-up exchange.

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As a person who lives in the general area of the Border in question, I have a different viewpoint than most. Also, I know that fighting the "Man" and the Wetbacks can only be done from a position of strength and common sense.

First, let me tell you something you might not know. I just joined (this month), the Texas Chapter of the Minutemen. I had been putting it off, using the $50.00 fee for an [easy] excuse (the fee is for a criminal background check on the applicant). But after my visit last month with a bud that owns a ranch on the Border I decided to go ahead and join.

I have been in phone and email contact with my rancher bud for years. He is one of the few that still is alive from my previous life. He has told me, it has never been an issue with him or with any of the law enforcement agencies or Border Patrol that he has talked to or with any of the the new " Minuteman association" volunteers that he has talked to. He stated also that  the coyotes and illegals knew of and kept track of their locations. This is mainly because its impossible to keep it a secret in the first place. The news media and the trails of dust going hundreds of feet in the air make movement and placement of observers impossible to keep secret. Plus, the coyotes have their own intelligence systems; they have been doing this for decades and are experts.

Yes, it is a requirement that any and all border activities be shared with Mexico, has always been and will be until we are in a state of war with them (which I believe we should be at this time.)

The Minuteman Mission is not to sneak up on the illegals and capture them. 

That would only result in getting people injured or killed. The mission is to Observe and Report and that is all...end of Mission Statement.

Oh, and if you're a Border Patrol Officer, you follow orders or you stop being one. They don't brook corruption or lone rangers in the Border Patrol. They have not only fired hundreds of officers but arrested many and put them in jail for infractions and corruption.

The Texas Sheriffs Assoc. is trying to form a Sheriffs Assoc comprising all of the Sheriffs in the Border states. This is not just for tactical purposes but for political purposes. If successful they could become a driving force for law enforcement and border security.

He stated also, that even though Americans are getting "mighty upset about the illegals situation, that we still have to live and work with those already here and need  to work out new laws that won't start a war, which will hurt us just as much as it will them." We also discussed the many latino gangs that are in all the large cities. We agreed that they will have to be not only faced soon but that it will be more than the local law enforcement will be able to handle safely alone.

This issue about illegals is not going to go away. But we need not bite off more than we need to to start off with. The border must be closed NOW and take the other issues one at a time. If the results are not satisfactory, we have to vote out those that won't vote the will of the people and vote in those that will.

That is the way that it is supposed to work in a Republic.

This sorry situation took years to develop into what it is today and will take years to completely straighten out.

Papa Ray

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Papa Ray also wrote, while we were waiting on permission to quote his rancher friend:

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Reference the "reporting of Minuteman activities in areas outside the border" I had heard of that sometime last year and I believe that that information is being passed at the highest levels from within the Homeland Security Dept. But is it being ordered to be passed on from even higher up? Who knows, maybe a "leaker" will tell us later.

This is what needs to be done:

"The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps media offices will contact the reporter to inquire about copies of the documents and the timing on a follow-up story with the reports to the Mexican Government of activities of Minutemen in INTERIOR states, as if reports of our locations in the border states weren't bad enough."

If this is true (I won't worry about it until its proven to be true), then I do believe that whoever did this, should be called out for an explanation.

But the media making this whole thing sound like it is something new (the cooperation at the border) and like they are breaking the code, or that cooperation between law and border officers is something that has been secret is not only nonsense but pandering to those who want to see our government to be shown as something it is not. Or at the very least to just to damage the Bush Administration.

You have to remember whenever you read something from the MSM, what their political leanings and aspirations are.

And it appears that "the right" is going right along with it. They neglect to say that cooperation on the border is necessary and without it, makes law enforcement harder and more dangerous.

Everyone is for closing the Border, but those that live along the border understand that without cooperation between Mexico and the United States, it will soon turn into a war zone.

No sane person wants that.

Papa Ray

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Allahpundit: Border patrol says they’ve asked for a retraction

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Don't miss Greyhawk's latest Open Post.

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Promoted from the comments:

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In the Declaration of Independence, amongst the particular items of grievance two stand out in this context. One was the complaint that George III had failed to provide adequate and appropriate means for attracting immigrants to the colonies and naturalizing them, and that he was doing nothing to protect the borders of the Colonies from the incursions of hostile Indian tribes. To collate and interpret these two points - he's keeping out useful immigrants and failing to protect us from bad. Seems evocative of what our modern day George III is doing. (Washington was George I, HW was George II). Other grievances involved taxation and loosing upon the colonies a swarm of officials. And he didn't much like the original Minutemen either.

-- Rurik

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Andrew C. McCarthy: Is the U.S. Giving Mexico Intelligence about Americans?

Sara A. Carter: Officials disclaim Bulletin 'tipping' report

Posted by Bill Faith on May 10, 2006 at 04:56 PM in Mexican-American War 2, Papa Ray, Rurik | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack