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2005.08.28

Quote Of The Day

Remember (if you are old enough) how the protests during the Vietnam War negatively affected the morale of the troops. Think how wonderful it would be to do the opposite today. Imagine what it would do for the morale of the troops if huge numbers of people would begin holding “We Support the Troops – and Their Mission” rallies all over the country.
--- Lorie Byrd, 8/27/05.

[Excerpted from this post.]


I'm old enough Lorie, and I do remember, as do some friends of mine. That's why we formed "Veterans Support Our Troops"

Thank you Greyhawk for the Open Post.

Posted by Bill Faith on August 28, 2005 at 05:49 PM in Veterans Support Our Troops | Permalink | Comments (4) | TrackBack


2005.07.13

The Left doesn't support the troops ...

William Page, one of the Viet Nam vets on the Veterans Support Our Troops team I mentioned here and in some earlier posts saw this, realized how well it fits in with the message we want to get out, and wrote to make sure the rest of us saw it. I think you should see it too:


The Left doesn't support the troops and should admit it
Dennis Prager
July 12, 2005

Liberals, Democrats and others on the Left frequently state that they "support the troops." For most of them, whether they realize it or not, this is not true. They feel they must say this because the majority of Americans would find any other position unacceptable. Indeed, for most liberals, the thought that they really do not support the troops is unacceptable even to them.

Lest this argument be dismissed as an attack on leftist Americans' patriotism, let it be clear that leftists' patriotism is not the issue here. Their honesty is.

In order to understand this, we need to first have a working definition of the term "support the troops." Presumably it means that one supports what the troops are doing and rooting for them to succeed. What else could "support the troops" mean? If you say, for example, that you support the Yankees or the Dodgers, we assume it means you want them to win.

[Read the whole thing here.]


Dennis Prager is a nationally syndicated radio talk show host and columnist. His website address is www.dennisprager.com. I was a Dennis Prager fan long before I knew he was a columnist, having been in the habit for several years of listening to his show on my way home from work every night on KRLD in Dallas, TX.

Thanks, Greyhawk, as always, for the Open Post.

Posted by Bill Faith on July 13, 2005 at 10:30 PM in Veterans Support Our Troops | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack


2005.07.11

Veterans Support Our Troops -- More info coming soon

For those who've wondered why I've been so quiet the last few days, the main explanation is the amount of time I've spent trading emails with friends about the project I first mentioned here. As I said here:

TACAN, Rurik and I, and some other Viet Nam [see the correction below] vets who prefer to remain out of the spotlight for the moment, are still in the early stages of planning a series of public demonstrations to let the decision makers in this country know that we won't sit by idly and let our current generation of warriors be stabbed in the back like we were.  I hereby call bullshit on those who claim to support our troops but not their mission. This nation owes it to those who've served in Iraq, and especially to those who've died there, to finish the job they started. We will not sit on the sidelines and let what happened to us, and to over 58,000 of our brothers and sisters who died in Viet Nam, happen to a new generation of warriors. We're old, we're tired, and some of us are sick, but we've never run from a fight and we aren't about to run from this one.

[Correction, also added to my original post: I've been informed that two members of our core team are Cold War vets but not Viet Nam vets, both having completed their military service before the U.S. was heavily involved in 'Nam. Our team currently consists of those two gentlemen, four Viet Nam vets, and one Soldier currently serving in Iraq.]

We're still very much in the "brainstorming" stage (advice welcome) but  we've made substantial progress in several areas and should be ready to to tell you more soon. For now, I'll just pass on a little bit of information now and promise that more's coming later:

  • The name "Million Veterans March" is out.  There have been too many "Million This" and "Million That" marches already, very few of which even came close to reaching that number, and we need a name that better describes who we are and what we're trying to accomplish. We've settled on the project and organization name "Veterans Support Our Troops."
  • We've concluded, after consulting some people who've been through the process, that there's no way we can organize a rally as big as we have in mind by Veteran's day. Instead we're going to shoot for local rallies in as many places as we can on that day and a huge showing in Washington next summer, tentatively on Independence Day.
  • I've been elected interim webmaster (until we can afford a pro) for a site we hope to have on line within a few days.
  • We're still discussing the exact wording of our Mission Statement but I hope to be able to post it here within a day or two. 

Developing ...

Update: Linking to Greyhawk's Open Post.

Posted by Bill Faith on July 11, 2005 at 01:15 AM in Veterans Support Our Troops | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack


2005.07.01

Ask Someone Who Understands

From a man who understands far better than most of us (see here and here, for instance) what the war in Iraq is costing us:


I was looking at the spattered dust outside my room today when it hit me.  Someday our soldiers will leave this ugly, barren FOB.  ...

When that inevitable day comes I will have long since rotated home.  But I can’t help but wonder what Iraq will be like when the door closes on this chapter in our military history.  Will the new democratic Iraq survive its tempestuous infancy and serve its people with justice and mercy?  Will fathers and mothers be able to raise their children to be strong and proud? Will we have left the cradle of civilization a better and brighter place for having been here?  Every fiber of my being wants this to be true, it would justify the price we have paid in blood and anguish. 

But I have another selfish reason for hoping this all comes to pass. Someday I hope to raise a son… and I don’t want him to have to fight another war in this burning land. And if we cut and run before giving Iraq a chance to become a free society that is exactly what will happen. ...

[...]

... Do I want to melt under the blistering sun day in and day out? No.  Do I want to shuffle off this mortal coil in a foreign land? Again no. Did I want to leave my beautiful bride?  A thousand times no. But in the end it comes down to this.  I would rather see this through to the end and spend the rest of my days in peace - then leave this country before the mission is through and have these same jihadists attack the fertile soil of home.


Go read it all. Now! And while you're there, take time to thank the man who wrote it for what he's doing for you.

Posted by Bill Faith on July 1, 2005 at 12:04 AM in Veterans Support Our Troops | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack


2005.06.29

Is it time for a "Million Veterans March"?

E-friends Rurik (whom you met here) and TACAN (who doesn't go public very often) have kindly agreed to allow me to post an email exchange they had yesterday. It began when TACAN sent Rurik a link to this American Thinker post:


An Open Letter to the President
June 27th, 2005

Dear Mr. President,

I’ve no idea what your advisers are telling you, but based on my own experience in Washington I suspect they are talking more bluntly among themselves than they are to you.  So I’m writing to deliver an unpleasant message you must hear, and hear now: We are in danger of losing the war in Iraq.

To understand why, think back for a moment to what happened in Vietnam.  Even as our troops did better and better on the ground – as they killed more and more North Vietnamese and Viet Cong soldiers and secured more and more of South Vietnam itself  – support for that war eroded here at home.  For example, the Tet offensive was a huge military victory for our forces – but a decisive political defeat in the US.  Simply put, we didn’t lose the Vietnam war in Vietnam. We lost it in Washington.

[...]

In war, public support is the equivalent of cash flow. So the question isn’t whether a war is going well, but whether a war is going well enough, and fast enough, to end in victory before public support gives out.  And it’s obvious that public support for the war in Iraq has begun to erode, which means that from now on we are not only in a battle against our enemy overseas, but in a race against time here at home.

I don’t know how much time is left before public support for this war erodes to the point when victory will lie beyond our grasp.  ...

You have less time to win this war than you thought you had.  So to win, you will need to fight harder.

[...]

First, you need to fight harder in Iraq.  You keep saying that you are giving our generals all the troops they want.  With all respect, sir, this couldn’t possibly be true.  In the history of the world there has never been a general who thought he had enough troops.  If your generals are telling you they have all the troops they want to finish the job in Iraq, either the generals are idiots – or they have gotten the word that asking for more troops will end their careers.  ...  One way or another, put enough troops on the ground in Iraq to secure that country -- fast.  And while you’re at it, give the orders to either take out the governments of Syria and Iran or to hit them with so much force that they quit playing footsie with al Queda and the Baathists, because we cannot win in Iraq so long as Syria and Iran are providing support and sanctuary.  In short, do whatever is necessary, and do it now.

Second – and in my judgment, even more important -- you need to fight harder in Washington.  To explain why this will help win the war in Iraq, let me tell you about how one of your predecessors acted domestically in a way that had a huge foreign impact.  Shortly after President Reagan took office, ...

[...]

With all respect, sir, your performance in Washington has been too weak.  ....

[...]

Forget all the super-sophisticated, geo-political baloney.  War is a very personal business.  Look, when you send a platoon of soldiers or Marines out on patrol in Baghdad, or Tikrit, or Fallujah, you don’t expect that second lieutenant to come back to base and report that he reached a “compromise” with the terrorists; that they agreed our guys would kill or capture no more than five of their guys, but in return our own casualties would be light, or that the second lieutenant decided not to engage the enemy because he thought it best to save himself and his platoon for whatever the next battle might be.  You expect that young officer to engage the enemy, kill them all – or go down shooting.

Well, so should you.  You need to start fighting in Washington just as hard as you expect our troops to fight in Iraq.  And you need to keep fighting until the Potomac flows red with the blood of your political enemies.  ....

The war is now entering its most dangerous phase, by which I mean that period of time during which we will either secure our victory or lose so much public support that our defeat becomes inevitable.  The outcome will be determined by the decisions you make – both foreign and domestic – in the coming weeks.

God bless you, sir, for all you have done to keep us safe.  Now, go get ‘em.

Respectfully,

Herbert E. Meyer

Herbert E. Meyer served during the Reagan Administration as Special Assistant to the Director of Central Intelligence and Vice Chairman of the CIA’s National Intelligence Council. His DVD on The Siege of Western Civilization (www.siegeofwesternciv.com) has become an international best-seller.

[Click here to read the whole letter. Please. This man makes some very good points.]


Rurik responded:


Throughout the cold war the Democrats and Liberals insisted that we had no enemies, that it was all just a big misunderstanding which we could resolve by being nicer and proving we meant them no harm. The Republicans and conservatives had the sense to see that there were real enemies out there who meant us ill and would take our attempts at friendship as either weakness or guile.

Now - no not just now, but for the past 17 years actually, Republicans and conservatives have tried to apply this same fatuous and failed approach to domestic policy and competition. And its been getting worse.


TACAN replied to Rurik:


Hi [Rurik] - I agree.  I've been in heavy discussion with a couple other guys.  It is not an encouraging picture.  Somehow, we need to educate the people who don't care to be educated - i.e. the American public. Here's a thought I shared with the other guys.  Don't know if there's any merit or not.

"We have to begin with the education of the people.  There are two aspects: short-term and long-term.  Short term, I wonder - - - what if, for example, thousands, hundreds of thousands of old vets and others would march in DC on Veterans Day in support of our troops and our  national objectives in the Global War on Terror Everyone wearing vet accoutrements and medals.   I don't have a clue how to get something like that together, but it would surely be awesome and hard for the old, lame media to ignore.  Parade permits, police permits, porta-potties, media coverage, logistics, security, etc., etc.  It would be a hell of an organizational nightmare.  If the VVAW could do it back in the 70s, we could do it now.  Just a thought."


Rurik replied to TACAN, and copied me:


IMHO a most powerful suggestion. A first step might be to spread this suggestion as widely as possible, to your e-mail correspondents, to the on-line discussion fora, to blogs, etc. Perhaps go fishing and admit that you don't know beans about setting up the logistics for such a thing and request the services of some experienced people in Washington - this is going to have to be set up locally anyhow.

I will be posting your suggestion to a private forum later today, and also to the Swiftees  [http://www.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/, where I met Rurik and TACAN -- BF] - unless you beat me to it, and I will try to identify and find other people - talk-show hosts, etc.

I also don't know how to start a national grass-roots movement - but agitating is one one thing that can help.

And if you/we/our friends succeed in setting this up, I WILL be there, even if I have to pawn my mother for bus fare.

One more note - I'm not sure that the American public doesn't want to be educated. I think most of them already know, but have been atomized and isolated, and are being steamrollered over one by one. They need a standard to rally around and then counterattack. Remember the huge Hard Hat march down 5th Avenue during the Vietnam War? We need an organizing genius to advise and educate us.

[Rurik]


Rurik, TACAN: I'll do everything I can to support your worthy cause.  I guess we can consider this blog post part of Rurik's fishing expedition and hope it reaches someone who has some ideas on how to get something like this organized. How do y'all feel about the name "Million Veterans March?" (Is "Operation Dewey Mountain 05" too cutesy?) If we can't educate the whole public (Sometimes you lead the horse to water and he refuses to pull his head out of his ass) maybe it will be enough just to show some wishy-washy politicians that there's still major public support for doing the right thing, whether the Kerry/Boxer/Moore fringe likes it or not.

Fellow Viet Nam vets: We lost a war because while we were away winning military victories the peaceniks took to the streets back in The World and stabbed us in the back. Are we going to let that happen to our brave men and women in Iraq? Will you answer the call one more time?

GWOT vets: I won't say "You saw what happened to us" because most of you weren't even around back then, but I'm sure most of you know what happened. Will you join forces with a few hundred thousand old men to keep it from happening to you?

This doesn't have to be just a veterans' effort, folks. Will the rest of you join us in keeping this nation from repeating a tragic mistake?

 

Update: Don't miss Mudville's daily Open Post.

Posted by Bill Faith on June 29, 2005 at 08:53 PM in Rurik, Veterans Support Our Troops | Permalink | Comments (3) | TrackBack